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Discussion Topic: Obstruction at 2hd base?
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rccjd1 |
06-15-2010 @ 11:48 AM
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Man leading off 2nd. The shortstop comes running in and gets between the runner and 2nd. The runner dives back and gets tangled up in the legs of the shortstop who is in the base path and the runners fingers end up 5 inches from the base as he gets tagged out. Whats the call?
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Jim_Thompson |
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06-15-2010 @ 11:58 AM
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You obviously need to see the play, but it also depends on the rules being used. If high school and if the shortstop did not actually have the ball,it's obstruction. If playing pro rules and the shortstop was about to catch the ball, the runners out.
Jim
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rccjd1 |
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06-15-2010 @ 4:16 PM
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One more on that.... Second baseman recieves ball on his side of 2nd base and shortstop, in base path, was run into by the runner trying to get back, would the runner get 3rd base awarded to him?
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06-15-2010 @ 4:53 PM
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Under NCAA, FED, and OBR, the award on this play would be
one base if the umpire judged obstruction (probably
followed by an ejection).
Delayed dead ball under NCAA and FED with a minimum one
base award. Immediate dead ball under OBR (Type A
obstruction because the runner was being played on when
the obstruction happened) with a minimum one base award.
Bill
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greybeard |
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06-16-2010 @ 8:51 AM
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As was said above, this is a "you had to be there."
My view is that if the fielder had set himself up between the base and the runner and then waited for the throw, it's obstruction. Kill the ball, runner to third.
If, however, the throw was on its way and the fielder had to get to that spot to catch it and it just happened to be between the base and the runner, play on.
Judgment.
This message was edited by greybeard on 6-23-10 @ 10:01 AM
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07-26-2010 @ 1:40 PM
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had this exact play in this years state tournament....its the old "let my ss get in your R@ way while my 2b breaks to the bag for the throw" pickoff play.
my runner tangles up with the ss on his way back in but makes it back safely anyway.
i argue for and get the obstruction call from the home plate ump and the crew discusses puts my runner on third.
after a 20 min discussion, an ejection of a defensive coach, and a call to USSSA state director runner is moved back to 2nd (blown call USSSA state guy -way to go).
We were the home team, tied in extra innings with no outs, so obviously the free pass to 3rd would have been a huge play. Thankfully the first pitch after the break got gapped to score him easily.
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Gary_Embrey |
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07-26-2010 @ 8:02 PM
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In case anyone is not sure about the award, by rule, when a runner is obstructed, he is always awarded at least one base beyond the base held at the time of the obstruction. Doesn't matter which direction he is going at the time of the obstruction. (It's umpire judgment whether to "protect/award" beyond the one base minimum.)
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noumpere |
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07-27-2010 @ 10:21 AM
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In case anyone is not sure about the award, by rule, when a runner is obstructed, he is always awarded at least one base beyond the base held at the time of the obstruction.
Not true. It depends on the rules being played under and the whether a play is being made on the runner.
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Gary_Embrey |
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07-27-2010 @ 3:38 PM
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Under what rules is this not true? And don't say LL or I'll really blow a gasket. 
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noumpere |
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07-28-2010 @ 11:27 AM
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Pro rules when a play is not being made on the runner at the time of the obstruction. There's no minimum award.
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