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polarbear
08-17-2014 @ 12:39 AM                          
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Runner on 3rd, 3rd base ump calls balk!  Pitcher ignores him and
pitches, batter ignores him and bunts. Pitcher fields ball but decides
to now listen to ump and doesn't throw to first.  The R3 is now key
because the way I understand it if he advances on bunt (thus all
runners have advanced) than balk is ignored and run scores and
hitter is safe on first.   Now in this case the runner on third decided
not to go cuz he probably heard the balk call the best. Thus
because both runners didn't both advance a base as a result of the
bunt then balk stands. The decision was to award R3 home and
have hitter finish his at bat. Did I interpret this correctly?

JC_Baseball
08-17-2014 @ 1:06 AM                          
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OBR or FED oe ?

VTHokieUmp
08-17-2014 @ 8:10 AM                          
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As Jim said, what rules?

FED - ball is dead immediately following the balk call.  
What happens after the balk call doesn't matter - call
time, award R3 home.  Batter remains at bat.

NCAA and OBR - ball is delayed dead.  If the balk is
followed by a pitch and all runners and the
batter-runner advance at least one base, ignore the
balk
and play on.  If not, call time, enforce the balk and
the
batter remains at bat.  The coach does not receive a
choice.  The balk is either enforced or ignored.

Bill

This message was edited by VTHokieUmp on 8-17-14 @ 9:16 PM

JC_Baseball
08-18-2014 @ 5:46 PM                          
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@ VTHokieUmp who said - As Jim said, what rules?  

I am truly honored!  

Does that mean I am "in the club"?

VTHokieUmp
08-18-2014 @ 7:35 PM                          
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You're an "honorary" member.  But what it really means is
that I hadn't finished my coffee and wasn't fully awake.

Bill

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08-19-2014 @ 5:12 PM                          
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How much coffee does an umpire normally drink prior to
heading for the field?  

And thanks for the honorary status for 24 hours

polarbear
08-19-2014 @ 6:01 PM                          
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OBR. Thank you gentleman always nice to get the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help my umpires!

VTHokieUmp
08-19-2014 @ 6:42 PM                          
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If I had the power to change on NFHS rule, this would
be it.  I've seen too many instances where the defense
violates the rule and ends up benefiting from the
immediate dead ball.  

I've had R1, balk, pitch, the B/R hit by pitch.  B/R
stays at bat and R1 advances.

I've had R1 and R2, balk, shot to the gap.  No one paid
any attention to our calls of "TIME!"  Two runs score,
B/R on second base.  Sorry coach, but you now have R3
and R2, no runs, and the B/R is still at bat.

And worst of all, R2, balk, pitch, home run only to end
up with R3, no home run, and the B/R still at the
plate.

That needs to change.

Bill

This message was edited by VTHokieUmp on 8-19-14 @ 6:43 PM



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